Johann Friedrich Habermann

1795 - 1833  (38 years)

 Set As Default Person

• Name	Johann Friedrich Habermann  [1, 2]
  Born	1795	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [2]
  Gender	Male
  Birth	1796	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [1]
  Reference Number	2131
  Residence	1798	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [2]
  	HH22
  Residence	1816	Kukkus, Samara, Russia   [1]
  	HH28
  Died	1833	Kukkus, Samara, Russia
  	note on HH 101
  Siblings	1 Sibling
  	+ 1. Anna Maria Habermann ,   b. 1792, Kukkus, Samara, Russia ▻Johann Georg Schaefer,   b. 1786, Kukkus, Samara, Russia
  Person ID	I2131	kukkusfamilies

  
  

  Father	Johannes Habermann,   b. 1762,   d. 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  (Age 54 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Anna Margaretha Baum,   b. Abt 1755
  Relationship	natural
  Married	Y  [3]
  	2nd husb
  Family ID	F423	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Katharina Sophia Kries,   b. Abt 1795,   d. Bef 1834, perhaps bef. 1826  (Age ~ 38 years)
  Married	Aft 1822
  Family ID	F952	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 2	Unknown Unknown,   b. Abt 1796,   d. Abt 1822  (Age ~ 26 years)
  Married	Bef 1816
  	base on first known child
  Children	1. Johann Konrad Habermann,   b. 1816, Kukkus, Samara, Russia ,   d. 1818, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  (Age 2 years)  [natural]   2. Johannes Habermann,   b. 1820, Kukkus, Samara, Russia ,   d. 1839, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  (Age 19 years)  [natural]   3. Maria Elisabeth Habermann,   b. 1822, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  [natural]
  Family ID	F12629	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 3	Margaretha Elisabeth Schumann,   b. 19 Jul 1801, Laub, Samara, Russia
  Married	Abt 1826
  Children	+ 1. Johann Christian Habermann,   b. 1827, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  [natural]   2. Heinrich Konrad Habermann,   b. 1829, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  [natural]   3. Anna Elisabeth Habermann,   b. 1832, Kukkus, Samara, Russia  [natural]
  Family ID	F12633	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map

  Born - 1795 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Birth - 1796 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Residence - HH22 - 1798 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Residence - HH28 - 1816 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Died - 1833 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  JDS Notes: It's clear from the 1834 Rev List that he'd been married at least twice. In the absence of better information: 1) I would assume a first wife was the mother of his first three known kids, 1815, 1820, and 1822. 2) I would assumed his second wife was the mother of his kids born in 1827, 1829, and 1832. 3) The second wife was a Katharina Sophia Kriess, who I suspect came from the Griess (spelled as such) HH 216 in Norka in 1798, which appears to be the only place males with this surnamed existed in 1798. She was probably born after 1798 to one of the three eldest sons listed there. The 1834 Rev List makes note that George Adam (Kriess) was the illegitimate son of Habermann's deceased wife Katharina Sophia, so we know she was unmarried in 1822 and could not be the mother of Habermann's eldest three kids. Here's where things get complicated... Lauwe marriage records show a Nov 1833 marriage (perhaps just the bann, with the marriage being a bit later) of Wilhelm Preuss (born about 1792) and a widow Margaretha Elisabeth Habermann born Schumann (born about 1801). This widow I believe was the Margaretha Elisabeth Schumann born 19 Jul 1801 in Laub, married Andreas Heinrich Doos (9 Apr 1800 - 1825) of Dinkel, with whom she had five known kids, married Johann Friedrich Habermann of Kukkus sometime thereafter, and married Wilhelm Preuss of Lauwe in late 1833. In looking across all non-Catholic colonies that have been transcribed, which includes pretty much any colony that this woman could have been widowed in, the only one with a male Habermann that died prior to 1834 that could possibly fit is Johann Friedrich Habermann in Kukkus, noted as dying in (about) 1833. If I'm correct: 1) Habermann had some earlier wife (perhaps more than one) that was the mother of his first three known kids. This wife died as early as 1822, perhaps in childbirth. 2) Katharina Sophia (Griess-Kriess) could not have married Habermann any earlier than about 1823, as she had her illegitimate kid in 1822, probably in Norka, and Habermann also had a kid by his first wife in 1822. An unwed mother with and infant from another colony would be a good match for a recently-widowed guy with three kids, one being an infant, as both had infants needing support, and an unwed mother would often "leave town" to marry. 3) Margaretha Elisabeth (Schumann) was married to Habermann at the time of his death in (about) 1833, and could not have married him any earlier than very late 1825 as her Doos husband died in (about) 1825, and she had a child by him in Oct 1825. I would expect her to have remarried in about 1826, perhaps to Habermann, perhaps to someone else. 4) George Adam Kriess, being an illegitimate kid who clearly came to Kukkus with his mother, as he appears there in 1834 (and thereafter), was likely raised by Habermann nearly from infancy, and remained with Habermann after his mother's death. 5) The note about Kriess being the illegitimate son of Habermann's deceased wife Katharina Sophia is probably specific in naming her to make clear that she was not his last wife, and that George Adam was not of his last wife. The only real questions that I think remain are: 1) When did Katharina Sophia die? 2) Who might Margaretha Elisabeth (Schumann) Doos have married in about 1826 if not Habermann? 3) When did Habermann marry Margaretha Elisabeth (Schumann) Doos … ? That Habermann had no known kids between 1822 and 1827 suggests to me that Katharina Sophia was not the mother of those beginning in 1827. It's possible, of course, but seems like a large gap to have no surviving kids. On the other hand, if Margaretha Elisabeth married Habermann in about 1826, she could easily have been the mother of those kids. This would mean that Katharina Sophia died in about 1825. If Margaretha Elisabeth did not marry Habermann in about 1826, then she would have married someone else, been widowed, and then married Habermann later. In any case, I think Margaretha Elisabeth had to be the wife of Habermann at the time of his death in (about) 1833.

  
  

• Sources

  [S54] 1834 Kukkus, Russia Census, Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon, (Name: Dynasty Publishing; Location: 16473 SW Cornelian Way Beaverton OR 97007; Date: 2008;), As of 6 Oct 1834. [S245] 1798 Census of the German Colonies along the Volga-Volume 1 & 2, Brent Alan Mai, (Name: American Historical Society of Germans from Russia (AHSGR); Location: Lincoln, Nebraska; Date: 1999;), Kukkus, Russia 1798 Census P641-647 as of 2 August 1798. [S248] Surname Charts, Dr, Igor Pleve, Saratov State Technical University, (Name: Igor Pleve; Location: Saratov, Russia;), Baum-Kukkus, Russia. A surname chart of Village inhabitants with the same surname. Prepared from various Russian records including church records, transport records, immigration records and census lists.