Eve Irish

1850 - 1919  (69 years)

 Set As Default Person

• Name	Eve Irish  [1, 2, 3, 4]
  Birth	Between 1849 and 1850	Michigan, USA   [5]
  	6 months old- abt jan 1850
  Residence	1850	Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA   [3]
  	Age: 0
  Born	2 Jan 1850	Michigan, USA   [1, 2, 3, 4]
  Gender	Female
  Race	White  [2, 4]
  Name	Amanda Irish
  Name	Eve Frisbee  [4]
  Reference Number	5551
  Residence	1860	Groveland, Ortonville, Oakland, Michigan, USA   [1]
  	Age: 10; AttendedSchool: Yes
  Residence	1870	Groveland, Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA   [2]
  	Occupation: Keeping House
  Died	22 Apr 1919	New Haven, Shiawassee, Michigan, USA   [4, 6]
  	Age: 69
  Person ID	I5551	FelsingFam
  Last Modified	16 Feb 2024

  
  

  Father	Liberty B Irish,   b. 1813, Fort Ann, Washington, New York, USA ,   d. 16 Sep 1899, Oakland, Michigan, USA  (Age 86 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Judith Jenkins,   b. 22 Jun 1814, New York, USA ,   d. 19 Mar 1893  (Age 78 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Married	Aft 1850
  Family ID	F1358	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Thomas Jefferson Terry,   b. 1848,   d. 1920  (Age 72 years)
  Married	1 Dec 1867
  Children	+ 1. George Terry,   b. Aug 1867, Michigan, USA ,   d. 1 Jul 1918, St Charles, Saginaw, Michigan, USA  (Age ~ 50 years)  [natural]   2. Ellis Terry,   b. 1884, Michigan, USA  [natural]
  Last Modified	16 Feb 2024
  Family ID	F981	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - Between 1849 and 1850 - Michigan, USA Residence - Age: 0 - 1850 - Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, USA Born - 2 Jan 1850 - Michigan, USA Died - 22 Apr 1919 - New Haven, Shiawassee, Michigan, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Photos » Slide Show		1850 United States Federal Census Year: 1850; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: 360; Page: 333a
  		1860 United States Federal Census Year: 1860; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Page: 245; Family History Library Film: 803556
  		1870 United States Federal Census Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: .
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• Notes

  I do agree that Amanda and Eve are the same person. The July 1850 Federal census lists Amanda in the Judith Irish household as age 6 months for a birthdate of around Jan 1850. The 1919 death certificate of Eve (Irish) Terry in Oakland County, Michigan lists birthdate of 2 Jan 1850. It also lists her father as Norman Irish. (As Norman died in 1846 this cannot be her correct father.) Her mother’s name is not listed. The Jan 1850 birthdate ties both of these together and makes it quite clear that Eve and Amanda are the same person. The parentage of Eve/Amanda is more complicated, but we gain useful information from Divorce cases filed in Oakland County. For example; on 28 Jan 1848 Sarah Jane Irish filed for divorce from Liberty B Irish. She alleges an adulterous relationship her husband is having with Judith Irish (the widow of Liberty’s brother, Norman, who died in June 1846 from ‘the kick of a horse’). She alleges that this relationship began in Mar 1847. She further states that he became intimate or strongly attached to Judith beginning in July 1846. This case was apparently dropped. A second case was filed by Sarah Jane on 7 Jun 1853. In this case Sarah Jane alleges that Liberty is recognized as the father of an illegitimate child, born to Judith in Jan 1850. (This of course would be Amanda/Eve, although the child was not named.) This case was also apparently dropped. A third case was filed 12 Aug 1859 by Sarah Jane. No case record appears in the file. This case was dismissed 8 Oct 1859. A fourth case was filed 13 Mar 1862, this time by Liberty. He claims that Sarah Jane has abandoned and deserted him. Sarah Jane contests this stating that Liberty wants the divorce so he can marry Judith. She also states that both Liberty and Judith were arrested for assault with intent to murder her. Liberty was not tried. But Judith was tried, convicted and sent to prison. She was since released. She states that Liberty lived with Judith up until the conviction and again moved in with Judith when she was released. This case was dismissed 21 Jan 1865. It would seem from these records that Liberty had a relationship with Judith beginning perhaps in 1846 and extending, perhaps off and on, for at least 16 years. It would also seem that Liberty is indeed the father of Eve/Amanda. (We can be certain that Norman is not the father.) We also do not find a record of a completed divorce from Sarah Jane or a marriage to Judith. However, Liberty certainly had a lengthy relationship with Judith, which apparently resulted in a child. The parentage of Maria/Mariah should be listed as Norman and Judith. Although not impossible, there is simply no evidence of a relationship between Judith and Liberty prior to 1846 1/1/2009 per Gayle Zimmerman, she is not convinced that Amanda and her sister Eve are two separate people. Also as Norman died in 1846 Amanda and/or Eve are probably the child(ren) of Liberty Irish, who Judith was having an affair with. See divorce records under media.

  
  

• Sources

  [S6] 1860 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Database online. Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, post office Ortonville, roll M653_556, page 0, image 246. Record for Eve Irish 1860 United States Federal Census Year: 1860; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Page: 245; Family History Library Film: 803556 [S224] 1870 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2003;), Year: 1870; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: M593_694; Page: 234A; Family History Library Film: 552193. Record for Eve Terry https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=7163&h=28871019&indiv=try 1870 United States Federal Census Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . [S260] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Year: 1850; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: 360; Page: 333a. Record for Amanda Irish https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=8054&h=3214529&indiv=try 1850 United States Federal Census Year: 1850; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: 360; Page: 333a [S243] Michigan, Death Records, 1897-1920, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), The Library of Michigan; Michigan Death Records Project; Rolls: 1-302; Archive Barcode/Item Number: 30000008346797; Roll Number: 280; Certificate Number: 7. Record for Eve Terry https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1561&h=1312869&indiv=try [S17] 1850 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009;), Database online. Groveland, Oakland, Michigan, roll M432_360, page 333, image 167. Record for Liberty Irish 1850 United States Federal Census Year: 1850; Census Place: Groveland, Oakland, Michigan; Roll: 360; Page: 333a [S10] "Michigan Digital Archive Collection", State of Michigan, Archives of Michigan Digital Collections, Eve Irish. D_eve irish