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John Irish

John Irish

Male Abt 1611 - 1676  (~ 65 years)

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  • Name John Irish 
    Born Abt 1611  Somerset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Reference Number 2785 
    Died 5 Mar 1676  Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I2785  FelsingFam
    Last Modified 16 Feb 2024 

    Family Elizabeth Unknown,   b. Aft 1611 
    Married Bef 1644  Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Children 
    +1. John Irish,   b. 1641, Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Feb 1717, Little Compton, Newport, Rhode Island, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)  [natural]
     2. Elizabeth Irish,   b. 1644, Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1687, Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 43 years)  [natural]
     3. Elias Irish,   b. 1651, Newport, Rhode Island, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1677, Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 26 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 16 Feb 2024 
    Family ID F710  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1611 - Somerset, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Bef 1644 - Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 5 Mar 1676 - Duxbury, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • On 20 April 1629 John Irish “of the Parish of Clisdon, County of Summerset” signed a five year indenture agreement with Timothy Hatherly. This was common to do in that era in order to pay for passage to the new world. This indenture agreement was not recorded in the new world until 12 July 1697 at Taunton, Massachusetts.

      At first glance this would appear to be our best document to establish the origin of John Irish. However, the County of Somerset does not have a Parish of Clisdon. Perhaps this was a misspelling of Clevedon, Somerset, which is now called Avon. Perhaps this was meant to refer to Clisdon in the County of Hampshire. No parish records have been found in either place which refer to this John Irish. The origin of John Irish therefore is still open to conjecture.

      His birth year is commonly referred to as “by 1611” which is assuming that he was 18 at the date on indenture. 18 is probably an “average” age for indenture agreements, however 14 year olds and 24 year olds (and older) have been known to enter into these agreements. The birth year of 1611 is at best an approximation, which could be off by as much as 5 years or more.

      It has been claimed that he was born in Clevedon, Somerset as the son of Jonathon Irishe of Treys and Elizabeth Kirby, however these people do not appear in the Clevedon records and no documentation exists to support this.

      Early New England records establish 3 children, John, Elias and Elizabeth. Some genealogies suggest a fourth child Lydia, who married a Gray and moved to France. However there is no documentation to support this.

      It has been claimed that he married Elizabeth Risley, but there is no documentation for his wife's maiden name.

      The following from NewEnglandAncestors.org:
      Death: He died by March 5, 1677/8.
      Ship: Unknown, 1630
      Life in England: In an indenture dated April 20, 1629, John
      Irish of Clisdon, Somersetshire, laborer, agreed to serve Timothy
      Hatherly of Southwark in Plymouth, New England, for five
      years. Note: As there is no Clisdon in Somerset, it is unclear
      what location was meant.
      Life in New England: John Irish immigrated as an indentured
      servant. As part of his payment when he finished his service, he
      was to have 25 acres of land.The Plymouth court had ordered
      the towns in which former servants lived to provide them with
      land, but this practice did not work out. Ex-servants generally
      received land in the colony’s “frontiers” where the colonial government
      was encouraging settlement. In Plymouth’s case, this
      meant Bridgewater, between Plymouth and Massachusetts Bay
      and Saconett [Little Compton, Rhode Island] to the west. John
      Irish received land in both locations.While his main occupation
      was planter [farmer], John Irish described himself in a 1659 deed
      as a “roper.”
      Family: John Irish married Elizabeth _____ by about 1644 and
      had three children. She died in Little Compton on August 28,
      1687.
      Children of John and Elizabeth Irish:
      • Elizabeth was born about 1644. She married Philip Washburn
      by about 1664 and had four children. She died on August 28,
      1687, in Duxbury. He died about 1700.
      • John was born about 1647. He married (1) Elizabeth ____ by
      about 1672. He married (2) Priscilla (Southworth) Talbot on
      March 1, 1689, in Bristol, Rhode Island, and had two children.
      He died on February 21, 1717, in Little Compton,
      Rhode Island. She died on June 11, 1722.
      • Elias was born about 1649. He married Dorothy Witherell in
      Taunton on August 26, 1674, and had one child. He died
      before October 30, 1677, when the court appointed his
      father-in-law,William Witherell, to administer his estate. She
      married (2) William Wood on April 1, 1686.
      For Further Information:
      Robert C. Anderson. The Great Migration Begins. Boston: New
      England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995.
      Robert C. Anderson. The Pilgrim Migration. Boston: New
      England Historic Genealogical Society, 2004.
      George E. Bowman. “Washburn Notes.” The Mayflower
      Descendant 15(1913): 247-53; 16(1914): 248-253.
      Willis Luther Irish and Stella Bertha (Putnam) Irish. Descendants
      of John Irish the Immigrant 1629-1963 and Allied Families.
      Freeport: Dingley Press, 1964.

  • Sources 
    1. [S13] Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33, Robert Charles Anderson, (Name: New England Historic Genealogical Society; Date: 1995;).