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Johann Gottfried Engelmann

Johann Gottfried Engelmann

Male 1821 -

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  • Name Johann Gottfried Engelmann  [1
    Birth 1821  Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Male 
    Name Gottfried Edelmann  [3
    Name Gottfried Engelmann  [2
    Residence 1834  Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    HH35 
    Residence 1850  Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    HH50 
    Residence 1857  Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    HH59 
    Siblings 2 Siblings 
    Person ID I26451  FelsingFam
    Last Modified 21 Dec 2024 

    Father Philipp Christian Engelmann,   b. 1790, Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1853, Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 63 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Anna Barbara Unknown,   b. 1791 
    Relationship natural 
    Family ID F7717  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Anna Katharina Gerlach,   b. 1823 
    Children 
    +1. Johann Peter Engelmann,   b. 5 Dec 1849, Kukkus, Samara, Russia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Nov 1913, Rocky Ford, Otero, Colorado, USA Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 63 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F8410  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 Dec 2024 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1821 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - HH35 - 1834 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - HH50 - 1850 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - HH59 - 1857 - Kukkus, Samara, Russia Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • I found out that my husband's grandfather, Heinrich was born in Kukkus from his death certificate 4 Oct 1930 and the funeral director. Then I found out a mystery that kept me wondering for a while. I know that he came with his wife and some of her sisters and bro-in-laws from Russia in 1900. Then on Jerry's grandfather's obit in 1930 it said that the body was being held pending the arrival of his mother (step-mother) and two step-brothers and two step-sisters from Fresno, CA. Hmmmm, I had to crack this mystery. I eventually found that his (my husband, Jerry's) great-grandfather had remarried and brought his 2nd wife and family from Kukkus in 1901. They made a brief stop in the Dolton/Lansing, Cook Co., IL. area where Heinrich and family resided and then moved on to Rocky Ford, Otero Co., Colorado to set up house. The great-grandfather's name was Peter Engelmann or Johann Peter who died in Colorado 10 Nov 1913. His death certificate gave me the name of his father, Johann Gottfried Engelmann and his mother's first name was unreadable, but the last letters were tall letters and her last name was Gerlach. From the 1834 Census of Kukkus the only Gerlach sister that would fit the first name would've been Katharina Margaretha Gerlach. That is not a proven, but a strong speculation on my part. I have found a Katharina Margaretha Gerlach married to someone else, but it could've been a second marriage.--Sharon Dickson-Engelman

  • Sources 
    1. [S17] Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon, 1834 Kukkus, Russia Census, (Name: Dynasty Publishing; Location: 16473 SW Cornelian Way Beaverton OR 97007; Date: 2008;), As of 6 Oct 1834.

    2. [S14] Translated by Olga Becker Batzel (Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany) and Nelli Batzel (Saxonia, Germany), 1857 Census Kukkus, Russia, (Name: Self; Date: 2008;), As of 25 Oct 1857.

    3. [S16] Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon, 1850 Census Kukkus, Russia, (Name: Dynasty Publishing; Location: 20303 SW Tremont Way, Beaverton, OR 97007; Date: 2012;), As of 1 July 1850.