Harry Pete Engelmann

1918 - 1990  (72 years)

• Name	Harry Pete Engelmann  [1, 2, 3]
  Birth	1918  [1]
  Birth	16 Oct 1918	Colorado, USA   [2, 3, 4]
  Gender	Male
  Residence	1930	Township 03, Township 3, Fresno, California, USA   [3]
  	StreetAddress: Summett Avenue; 11 Age: 11; AbleToSpeakEnglish: Yes; AttendedSchool: Yes; CanReadWrite: Yes; EnumerationDistrict: 0061; RegistrationDistrict: 0061; Single MaritalStatus: Single; Son RelationToHead: Son
  Death	1990  [1]
  	72 Age: 72
  Race	White  [3]
  Name	Harry P Engerman  [3]
  Residence	Deceased RelationToHead: Deceased  [1]
  Death	18 Dec 1990	Fresno, Fresno, California, USA   [2, 4]
  Burial	Fresno, Fresno County, California, United States of America   [2]
  Siblings	7 Siblings
  1. Living   2. Joseph Engelmann,   b. 23 Sep 1916, Colorado, USA d. 20 Jan 1989, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA  (Age 72 years) + 3. Harry Pete Engelmann,   b. 16 Oct 1918, Colorado, USA d. 18 Dec 1990, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA  (Age 72 years) ▻ Mary Ann Wert   4. Living   5. Kenneth Engelmann,   b. 8 Nov 1922, California, USA d. 13 Jun 1993, Ahwahnee, Madera, California, USA  (Age 70 years)   6. Living   7. Raymond Engelmann,   b. 16 Sep 1926, California, USA d. 16 Feb 1954, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA  (Age 27 years)   8. Everett Engelmann,   b. 11 Apr 1928, California, USA d. 24 Aug 1983, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA  (Age 55 years)
  Person ID	I26435	FelsingFam
  Last Modified	21 Dec 2024

  
  

  Father	Philipp H Engelmann,   b. 23 Jul 1891, Kukkus, Samara, Russia d. 21 Jul 1946, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA (Age 54 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Laura Mattice,   b. 21 Apr 1895, Otero, Colorado, USA d. 16 Dec 1943, Fresno, Fresno, California, USA (Age 48 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Family ID	F8408	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Mary Ann Wert,   b. 8 Jul 1921, La Junta, Otero, Colorado, USA d. 15 Aug 2003, Sanger, Fresno, California, USA (Age 82 years)
  Children	+ 1. Living   2. Patty Engelmann,   b. Aft 1940   d. 1997 (Age < 55 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F8406	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	21 Dec 2024

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - 16 Oct 1918 - Colorado, USA Death - 18 Dec 1990 - Fresno, Fresno, California, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  findagrave shows him as son of Henry J Engelmann and Christina Hergenroeder. But that is incorrect. He is the son of Philip H and Laura Matice. ASHGR obit lists surviving brothers of John & Kenny who are also sons of Philip H & Laura. 1930 census also confirms this.

  
  

• Sources

  [S379] U.S., American Historical Society of Germans from Russia Obituaries, 1899-2012, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2021;). Record for Mr Harry Pete Engelman https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=62188&h=3215341&indiv=try US, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia Obituaries, 1899-2012 - Harry Pete Engelman [S31] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;). Record for Harry P Engelman https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=60525&h=89065501&indiv=try [S1285] Ancestry.com, 1930 United States Federal Census, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2002;), Year: 1930; Census Place: Township 3, Fresno, California; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 0061; FHL microfilm: 2339852. Record for Harry P Engelman https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=6224&h=89166308&indiv=try 1930 United States Federal Census - Harry Pete Engelmann [S1] Genealogical Information, Provided by Sharon Dickson-Engelman. I found out that my husband's grandfather, Heinrich was born in Kukkus from his death certificate 4 Oct 1930 and the funeral director. Then I found out a mystery that kept me wondering for a while. I know that he came with his wife and some of her sisters and bro-in-laws from Russia in 1900. Then on Jerry's grandfather's obit in 1930 it said that the body was being held pending the arrival of his mother (step-mother) and two step-brothers and two step-sisters from Fresno, CA. Hmmmm, I had to crack this mystery. I eventually found that his (my husband, Jerry's) great-grandfather had remarried and brought his 2nd wife and family from Kukkus in 1901. They made a brief stop in the Dolton/Lansing, Cook Co., IL. area where Heinrich and family resided and then moved on to Rocky Ford, Otero Co., Colorado to set up house. The great-grandfather's name was Peter Engelmann or Johann Peter who died in Colorado 10 Nov 1913. His death certificate gave me the name of his father, Johann Gottfried Engelmann and his mother's first name was unreadable, but the last letters were tall letters and her last name was Gerlach. From the 1834 Census of Kukkus the only Gerlach sister that would fit the first name would've been Katharina Margaretha Gerlach. That is not a proven, but a strong speculation on my part. I have found a Katharina Margaretha Gerlach married to someone else, but it could've been a second marriage.--Sharon Dickson-Engelman